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Subject: Google search optimization
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posted by TomBrussels on Sunday, November 18th 2007 @ 5:39 PM

I would like to be able to use the google webmaster tools www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/ for our site; ie. adding a meta-tag in the first <head> section of the hompage OR by creating a specific HTML verification file. This in order to optimize google searches.

Any possibilities to enable this?

http://www.brussels-toastmasters.com

Thanks

Tom


Brian McDonald
Group Administrator

Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by Brian on Sunday, November 18th 2007 @ 6:20 PM

At this time we do not allow the modification of the <head> tags.

You may want to submit it as a suggestion for improvement.

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Brian McDonald, ACG, oCL, CL

Member of the FreeToastHost Support Group
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McDee's Specialties
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Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by TomBrussels on Thursday, November 22nd 2007 @ 6:36 PM

Thanks Brian,

how about the second part of my question: Can I create a specific HTML verification file? This would be something like http://www.brussels-toastmasters.com/jdfvjsdfsdjdhfsddjfh.html

Is this possible?

Thanks

Tom


Brian McDonald
Group Administrator

Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by Brian on Thursday, November 22nd 2007 @ 6:51 PM

You are only allowed to upload files to the images or files folder.
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Brian McDonald, ACG, oCL, CL

Member of the FreeToastHost Support Group
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Member of
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McDee's Specialties
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Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by carlS on Tuesday, January 15th 2008 @ 3:43 PM

I would like to second this suggested improvement. I have a verification string (meta tag) from google and would like it entered in the site's header information.

Some options -

A) create a widget that would alow the site admin to insert meta tags into the sites header.

B) creata a drop box where site administrators could e-mail the meta tag and then have freetoasthost admins (or robots) enter the tag into the header.

C) ...

Carl Stevens

Quicksilver Express

http://quicksilver.freetoasthost.ws/

Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by EricJohnson on Saturday, September 27th 2008 @ 2:36 PM

I would love to second this suggestion for improvement. We need to optimize our search / find capabilities on the most widely used search engine in the world.

Toastmasters are pushing us to increase membership. To wait six moths for the typical google spyder to "add" our site, is useless ... for all practical purposes.

I understand that this is a free sefvice, and all else is excellent. Truly.

But we need to be found... NOW!

Thanks for your kind consideration to alllow us to add verification files to the proper path, or even add header info. This is important.

Where do I submit the request for improvement.

Eric Johnson

Buckeye Club 121, VPPR

Toledo, Ohio

419-304-5726

Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by UConverseM on Saturday, January 2nd 2010 @ 6:14 PM

Agree with all sentiments outlined above

If the intent, is to not allow club webmasters insert the file necessary for Google to crawl the site, recommend pulling the second portion of the language below out of the administrator section, as it implies that one can be registered with Google. It will keep many from jumping down the same rabbit hole.

Promote this site! Don't forget to a) Update your listing on Toastmasters International to include your URL (http://uconverse.freetoasthost.us) and b) request that your website be entered in Google.com.

Thanks.

Keith Maly

U Converse Masterfully, Club 8127

Alexandria VA USA

http://uconverse.freetoasthost.us/index.html

Subject: Google Webmasters Tools & Analytics
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posted by GerrySchenk on Sunday, January 17th 2010 @ 2:53 PM

Recently I opened a similar thread, not realizing that there was already one here attempting to address this issue. As I read more about this in the forums, this thread highlights the fact that this particular feature request is almost three years old now. Perhaps if we can get more people adding their comments, it'll provide some momentum for Bo and the crew to actually implement.

For my contribution, I'd like to describe what is required by Google in order to utilize their tools and then make recommendations on how it could be implemented by FTH without compromising their need to maintain security.

To start, I would hope that there are no arguments about the value of the Google suite of tools. Having some access to the tools myself, I found a couple of the features that are particularly useful are the ability to understand where the search requests originated and the other is the search terms that are being used to find us. As I've just gotten into Google Analytics, it would appear that I am just starting to scratch the surface of what it's capabilities are.

In order to use Google tools & Analytics, Google requires validation that you're the domain owner and they need installation of java script on the pages that you want to track.

There are two validation techniques that Google allows, the first is a meta tag which needs to be installed in the header section of your home page. Below is an example of a header tag:

<meta name="google-site-verification" content="W2M3d3Pv6XlXgXau4DYDZ5MSaOvNDQUgQproEV8i3TY" />

We're unable to implement this validation method due to FTH security policy which prohibits any modifications to the header.

Recommendation: include a field under website settings called "Google Validation Code" where the validation code can be entered. Then FTH could include this meta tag as a standard part of the template which they populate using the information that is provided in the user supplied "Google Validation Code" field. Utilizing the method means that no direct access to the headers would need to be provided.

The other validation method is the existence of 0 byte file with a unique filename in the root directory. I'd recommend against this as it's simple enough to enable the meta tag. For those interested, the file name looks like this googlebde8dz81bu9859w7.html and it needs to be accessible via the root of your domain name.

For Google Analytics, they require the implementation of a java script, with your domain's Web Property ID. The Web Property ID consists of a 9 digit number. An example of a Web Property ID is UA-132679393-1. Other than the unique identifier, it's implemented through a standard java script. Here is what the Google supplied java script looks like:

<script type="text/javascript">
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
try {
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("
UA-132679393-1");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
} catch(err) {}</script>

For each domain, the only difference is the unique identifier bolded above.

Recommendation: similar to the recommendation above, include a field under website settings called "Google Analytics Web Property ID" where the identifier can be entered. Then FTH could include the java script listed above as part of the standard template and then simply insert the unique identifier into the appropriate part of the script.

I can't see how adding these mechanisms for validation and tracking can be that complicated considering that FTH is already doing something similar today with the "Custom Domain Name", "Page Title", etc. In addition, making the meta tag and java script part of the standard template should alleviate any security concerns that FTH has.

Seeing how often this feature has been requested, it would be appreciated if Bo and the FTH crew could weigh in on whether this feature is even being considered. If not, then these posts will be considered noise and we can all move on and work on other things that will hopefully improve our clubs.

regards,

->Gerry Schenk

VP PR - Richmond Toastmasters

Club Coach - Deltones Toastmasters


Tamara Abed
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Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by TamaraAbed on Thursday, January 21st 2010 @ 5:24 PM

I'd like to add my support to the suggestion of adding a field allowing the "Google Validation Code" to be entered under website settings.

Our website has been up for 3-4 months now and Google still is unable to find it.

Cheers

Tamara
http://wodenvalley.freetoasthost.org/


GeoffreyF
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Subject: RE: Google search optimization
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posted by GeoffreyF on Thursday, December 16th 2010 @ 9:21 AM

I'll second/third that.

Is there anyway we can activate Google analytics?

"There are several ways to prove to Google that you own http://insideedge.freetoasthost.info/. Select the option that is easiest for you."

Thanks Geoff